Orthanc Raid Organisation

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Issue 1 - One Team
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Issue 1 - Two Teams
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20%
Issue 2 - Same Days
6
6%
Issue 2 - Alternative Days
13
13%
Issue 3 - Fill Team 1, then Team 2
3
3%
Issue 3 - Leader decides your team
17
17%
Issue 4A - A Minimum Standard is fair
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20%
Issue 4A - A Minimum Standard is NOT fair.
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No votes
Issue 4B - Limit the number of Inexperienced/Undergeared players
17
17%
Issue 4B - DO NOT Limit the number of Inexperienced/Undergeared players
2
2%
 
Total votes: 98

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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Balthelion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:20 am

Well i think even at this early stage its clear what the trend is in the answers:
  1. You want two teams organised per week
  2. You want them on separate days
  3. You want the leader to balance you among the groups (assuming you can make both)
  4. You agree that a minimum reasonable standard is fair
  5. You agree that limiting the number of really green raiders is fair
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Balthelion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:33 am

OK, so the new schedule is shaping up to look something like this:

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Monday Before - Next Orthanc signup thread goes up
Tuesday Before - Next Draigoch Signup thread goes up


Thursday - Orthanc Team 1 (Day 1).
Friday - Orthanc Team 1 (Day 2) - Draigoch Day 1
Saturday - Orthanc Team 2 (Day 1).
Sunday - Orthanc Team 2 (Day 2) - Draigoch Day 2
Monday - Orthanc Team 1 (Day 3)
Tuesday - Orthanc Team 2 (Day 3)
Wednesday - Open Day
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Notes:

1 - Since 6 days are dedicated to Orthanc, Draigoch has no choice but to clash (We want to keep one day free so we can run any other events, live BG/OD/Rift runs etc.
2 - Draigoch runs are therefore scheduled on both DAY 2 events. This is so that it doesn't clash with a Day 1 event, which may see a lack of signups to orthanc as a result.
3 - Each group's Day 1 & Day 2 are back to back. This is so that you can stay fresh on what youve done on Day 1 going into Day 2. Day 3 should (once tactics are sorted) should just be a "finish whats left" day

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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Aedfrith » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:41 am

Ack, putting both Draigochs on Fri and Sun really limits me due to choir commitments (unless Sun Draigoch started at 8). I'd prefer to swap one of those round.
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by tinuriwen » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:59 am

I voted with the crowd but felt like i shouldnt :D

I should have said NO to the unfair treatment of the "green" raiders.
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Balthelion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:22 pm

We could move one of the Draigoch to Monday or Tuesday.

Sunday & Tuesday perhaps?
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Aedfrith » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:28 pm

Would work for me, thanks Bal - as long as there is one day I can do my farming :)
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Balthelion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:29 pm

OK so now like this:

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Monday Before - Next Orthanc signup thread goes up
Tuesday Before - Next Draigoch Signup thread goes up


Thursday - Orthanc Team 1 (Day 1).
Friday - Orthanc Team 1 (Day 2)
Saturday - Orthanc Team 2 (Day 1).
Sunday - Orthanc Team 2 (Day 2) - Draigoch Day 1
Monday - Orthanc Team 1 (Day 3)
Tuesday - Orthanc Team 2 (Day 3) - Draigoch Day 2
Wednesday - Open Day
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Danfast » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:42 pm

I personally voted like this:

- 2 teams as we are a big kin and lots of people want to join the new raid
- same days as in the other case every day of the week will be busy with Orthanc (this will also lead to a competition between the 2 teams and will improve everyone's skills)
- i trust Bal's judgement as he always was fair and let him manage the groups; i don't mind being in a group with more inexperienced people IF there is at least one officer/raid leader that can lead us (knowing or not knowing the tactics); people should try to do what they are asked as the leaders know what they are saying in 99% of the cases; this will also lead to better coordination and reduce the chances of wiping
-voted to take along people who are well geared, meaning at least the 4 Draigoch pieces; it's not that hard to get them and they boost you're stats pretty much

The most important thing in raids is paying attention to what's happening around you and doing what the leaders say. It's not really so hard. If someone won't do that for repetitive times probably no one will risk playing with him/her again in other raids/instances or the chances will be small for this.
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Balthelion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:18 pm

Danfast wrote:- i trust Bal's judgement as he always was fair and let him manage the groups; i don't mind being in a group with more inexperienced people IF there is at least one officer/raid leader that can lead us (knowing or not knowing the tactics); people should try to do what they are asked as the leaders know what they are saying in 99% of the cases; this will also lead to better coordination and reduce the chances of wiping
The plan (if agreed) is that I'll lead one group, grim will take the other, since he's eager to lead this as well, has had a chance to play around with a couple of the wings, and i can impart any additional knowledge to him in our test run this week :)
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Re: Orthanc Raid Organisation

Post by Netham » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:34 pm

Hmm. Moving the 2nd Draigoch to Tuesday results in only one of the ToO teams able to run Draigoch. It would be more balanced if the Draigoch runs were on top of one day from both teams, so it wouldn't leave out the other team completely, or atleast be troublesome scheduling the day if people are on both.

Would it be bad if team 1 had one day more between days 2 and 3, so that both teams could join Draigoch without a problem? The 12 people on team 2 would be at a disadvantage and so many of us still need the cloak (and more).
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