Right, well to add my views, most of which are known to officers due to a similar discussion in officer chat recently:The Organising of Raiding/Instances
We (Officers) try to organise what we can to ensure a minimum level of content on the calendar. While we do appreciate that kinnies may look to us as having the responsibility to do this, it's not fair on officers and those few regular kinnies who organise content to be the same people who ALWAYS organise content. After all, everyone who plays this game has a real life.
From a personal perspective, I would love for more people to step up to the plate and organise/lead content. Very few people have done this over the kin's lifetime, and one could argue that this is holding the kin back a little in its potential. IMHO, it's also a little bit cheeky for someone to complain/leave due to a lack of organised content if they won't even consider helping out themselves.
Yes, not everyone is familiar with the tactics for every instance/raid. And leading a raid takes more effort and knowledge than leading a 6-man for example. But that's what we're here for as a kin. We have a lot of people with a lot of experience, and we're here to share it. Personally, I'd love to be able to help and develop newer players so that one day they feel they have the experience and confidence to lead runs themselves, meaning more organised content for the kin, and we grow stronger as a kinship.
It's also why I'm hoping to get Instance/Raid guides done for EVERY instance during RoR's lifetime. Including guides published as fast as possible for the cluster due later in the year. Hopefully, a few people can help me out with writing those as they will be MASSIVE undertakings given the level of detail i like to include. If you want a specific guide, by all means ask for it.
In the meantime, theres a whole bunch of forums dedicated to help and advice, including tips for EVERY instance.
On Piira's point of organising older content for fun:
Again, it comes down to the same two points - Someone willing to lead it, and enough people to be interested in actually doing it. Since at the moment almost everyone is 75, running something like The Rift would be done purely for fun ratehr than serious character advancement. As such, it will see less interest than Draigoch/Orthanc for example (though ofc with enough over-leveled people, you don't need a full group). Older content is also a great way to include new members of the kinship while they are leveling, and get them introduced to the mechanics of grouping/raiding. Plus can you imagine how epic it would be to get some old raid gear at appropriate levels and actually use them for stats as well as cosmetics? On the subject of people thinking that we might not be as friendly and/or helpful as we used to be
Sorry, but this simply isn't true.
If a kinny has questions or needs advice, it will ALWAYS
be provided in kinchat/forums, as long as there is someone with enough experience to answer the question.
If a kinny needs something crafted, someone will usually craft it. Remember that other players are here to have fun and play the game too, so they may not be able to stop and craft - or relog an alt to do it - at the exact moment you ask.
If a kinny wants to run a specific instance without warning in kinchat, again people will probably join, but they are still busy doing whatever they want to do in game too. If they don't have advance warning, they probably aren't going to join your run. This is why we encourage people to organise content on the forums but very few regualr kinnies do.
The kinship is intended to have a fun friendly atmosphere. We're not robots, and we like to have a laugh. IMHO: If you can't take a joke or another persons opinion (regardless of whether you stress you can respect others opionions) - Then you do not belong on the internet. It's that simple.
Sometimes someone will say something in chat meaning one thing (a joke or sarcasm perhaps), and it gets read as something else. No harm was intended, but someone feels offended. Officers won't intervene because either the original comment is clearly (to us) not intended to cause harm, or because it's within acceptable limits (a joke for example). My personal advice: If you ever feel offended by something someone has said, politely and privately (/tell) point this out to them, and 99.99% of the time you'll find they didn't mean to offend you, and they will apologise on the spot.
. If the matter is however ongoing, you can
report it to an officer so they can look into the matter further. We can't do anything if we don't know anything, so you can't blame us if you don't tell us.
Lastly theres the issue that some people get offended by not receiving responses in kinchat. It could be they have simply said "hello" or they are asking for people to craft them something or come to an instance. It is common for for people to not respond if their answer will be negative ("No", "Sorry") in an MMO. No offense is intended, so you just have to deal with it.
. Half the time the reason people don't respond is because they are in combat or an instance, or they simply don't have it in chat. As an extreme example, we had the case of Alastrovic. He regularly took anything said by a kinny - no matter how innocent - to be a personal insult to himself. As a result, a lot of people felt it best to say nothing so they didn't cause a diplomatic incident. Alastrovic then decided that kinnies were being rude by NOT talking to him as much and left the kin. Sometimes you just can't win.On kinnies keeping quiet when they have issues with something in the kin
We pride ourselves in listening to everything our members have to say, from myself as Leader down to the newest recruit. We regularly post topics on the forums to ask everyone for their feedback to matters which affect the whole kin. We also invite anyone to raise any issues they have with how things are done in the kin. Bottom line: If you don't tell us your issues, we can't look into them and try to address them.On not being able to please everyone, etc.
Yes, we do try to please as many people as possible, which as a result puts a lot of extra strain on the officers, organisers of content etc, as we have to provide for both experienced and ambitious raiders, and more casual mostly soloer players.
This means that although we do try to the leading edge of raiding (currently Orthanc T2), we will never approach it with such focus or dedication, or have regular success with it like a "Hardcore Raiding Kinship" will. If people have ambitions beyond what the kinship can offer, then fair enough and I wish them all the best.
On all other non-raiding matters, I challenge anyone to come up with something that is beyond what the kin can/does offer.
And besides, you are all great guys (and girls, ofc!), so what should I desire more?
One point i did raise in officer chat was the possibility of writing a Kin Charter
This would be a document about what peopel can expect from the kinship (a certain level of raids, friendly helpfulness, blah blah), as well as what the kinship would like to see from individuals (giving back as much as you take, helping your fellow kinnies, hopefully organising content one day). It would also set out the realistic boundaries of the kinship, such as never being at the leading edge of raiding. Probably also outline expected behaviour (ie no excessive swearing, racism etc) from members. Also include information on what do do in the event of Kinny Vs Kinny issues (as outlined earlier in the post), kin procedure in various circumstances, explain that people are welcome to discuss issues on the forum etc. And also outline what services we offer (Free class quest items, dyes etc from the kinhouse, Free prizes for people to give out if they want to organise social events). And anything else anything can think of that is relevant really.